Continuing from the previous post...
Won't she find it odd at some point that you're touching her a whole lot, even supposing she's feeling good every time you do it? Won't she still find it intrusive?
Yes. Yes, she will! And as long as you follow the Frog-On-A-Hotplate Principle (explained later) this just helps you even more, because of something called the Cialdinian Consistency Principle. This basic principle of persuasion psychology simply states that the more you can get a girl to acquiesce to (generally by inciting her desire), and the faster you can get her do it, the more she will justify to herself that it's because you're so great and because she is so attracted to you. Is this counterintuitive or what!
In other words, she'll find it very ODD that she's enjoying getting touched so much by you and so fast and so intrusively, and the odder she finds it (while still allowing it) the more quickly she will fall for you. That's why girls that don't mind being touched - although generally a big help - can sometimes put up unexpected resistance later. The Cialdini effect is not working on them much because they are not breaking with their conditioning much.
Girls that don't like being touched are HARD to touch-escalate properly, but if you do, look out! She'll tend to fall for you hard and quickly because she's never felt so good being touched by someone before, and she's likely to subconsciously justify that she must be very attracted to you and you must be very special.
[Take a few minutes to consider the amazing implications of the above.]
What happens if the contact spills over to after the surge of good feelings has subsided?
This weakens the anchor by diluting it with neutral and even negative feeling associations. Even worse, it makes her feel like you're touching her too much and even if she likes it she's still obligated to object. Then a bad precedent has been set and all future touching is potentially suspect. In a later post I'll cover what to do if you make that mistake at some point. Note also that later in the pickup, you can and actually want to be less careful and "messier" - to a degree.
So I've gotta watch pretty carefully to make sure she's really in that good feeling spike when I touch and get in and out in time?
Yes, at first the tighter your physical contact timing the better, for the reasons explained above. Later in the seduction some slop factor is OK, and if this takes all your concentration time that will also be bad, but this is what you should shoot for, realizing that touch is one of the most effective weapons you have to get with the woman you're after. (Use it well and use it responsibly.)
What else does this first touch accomplish?
- Makes you more "real" for her
- Lets her know very viscerally that you are a sexual being
- Gets her horny...especially as you touch her more
- Shows leadership of her
- Shows confidence and warmth (I've had girls tell me they laid me because I was kind, and when I asked them how they knew I was kind they often say "from the way you touched me at first")
In summary for this segment, touching her correctly early on will actually imbue your touch with the power to make her feel good every time you touch her. On the simplest level, if someone feels good every time you touch them, what does that imply about their feelings toward you?
25/10/2007, 13:06
Hi Amanojack !
Did you get my email ?
Nice article by the way.
26/10/2007, 01:21
Hello Amanojack!
I read your posts since you started writing this blog.
The discussion in the first part of the topic was very interesting. It's hard to keep such discussion with different points of view without any of the sides getting irritated for not being able to persuade the other side.
I have some doubts...
1) Do you have any idea if j-girl's brain works the same way as descendant's one? I mean, for j-girls who don't live in Japan.
2) On the touching part now... What if I know a girl for some months (but am not so intimate with her yet) and haven't used to touch her as you described? Would it be weird start doing so out of nowhere?
And thanks for cleaning the last 2 comments. They were disturbing... _
26/10/2007, 02:13
Kuraujio,
1. This guide applies to all women all over the world, including J-girl and their descendants.
2. Yes it's weird to start out of nowhere. That's why you want to establish that "that's just how you are" from the first meeting. At this stage it will actually be easier to go out and find a new girl so you can establish that at the beginning that to try to work it with this girl you have known for some time. If you REALLY want to try, though, you'll have to come up with really good pretenses for all your touching. But even still, you'll run up against resistance since she's already either built a friendship with you that would be threatened by any sexual feelings or she's already established a pattern of not sexing you, signifying to her - by Cialdini - that you are not attractive to her after all. Fastest way is to start with a new girl. If you REALLY REALLY want to try, the fastest way with this present girl is to find a way to convince her you've undergone a whole personality overhaul and now you touch people and soon she will find out that you now are a fast seducer. OR you can play it as if you were never attracted to her all this time so you just played innocent, but SOMETHING about her finally caught your attention - elicit it from her - and now you're in passion mode and showing the dormant seduction animal you had hidden inside you. One of those tactics will be the best, but still the very best is to find a new girl.
29/10/2007, 23:57
Awesome! OK, I get it. It's like you give them the exact same feeling you get when they're with someone they're attracted to, and the theory of coherence kicks in and hints to them that they are attracted to you. Since it comes from within their own mind, they won't resist it, and as it amplifies it drives things along with great speed.
29/10/2007, 23:58
Victor,
Yes, that's a great summary of the effect and why this careful touching style is so incredibly effective.